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Friday, December 2, 2011

Re: [Kundalini Yoga] depression

Sat Nam! During the months of caring for my aging mom and at her passing my practice increased and helped me through such a very difficult time. I felt too that I was prepared,I came to find out that I was not prepared to lose my mother and to this day the emptiness and pain is carried in my heart along with such sweet memories of her love and understanding. My yoga practice continues to carry me through difficult life situations and as the pain of life increases through more losses I practice more...I am now a teacher so daily practice is in my life and it is guiding me through difficult times. Six or more classes a week plus my own practice helps with my depression, anxiety and fears...I am blessed. Keep practicing!
Sat Nam
Beantpal Kaur

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From: pamela <pamela@rabboar.com>
To: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: [Kundalini Yoga] depression

Sat Nam, Pisceswise,

My farther just passed over and although he was 93 and I had "thought" I was
all prepared, I guess I wasn't. Thank goodness for my Yoga. Believe me,
the past few days I have NOT wanted to practice, but because I teach I HAVE
to be there - and, as always, after the classes (some of which I also
participate in) I feel MUCH better, and, of course, I'm back to my personal
practice.

My Yoga originally eliminated physical pain, but now it is also relieving
mental and emotional pain and bringing me back into balance.

But remember, one class is not the solution - a regular practice is needed,
and continually. When I first started practicing to relieve my back pain I
did a short 10 minute routine every morning - for years - pain relief in a
few months, but still kept up for years just to be sure and because I found
I LOVED Yoga ;}

Yogi Bhajan had told us that we might start feeling what he called "Cold
Depression" during the Aquarian Age. He gave us meditations and Kriyas to
help with this - something we should practice every day for at least 40 days
- longer is better. You can, I believe, find info about this Cold
Depression and some ways to help relieve it on-line, or email me offline at
pamela@rabboar.com and I can direct you to some information.

Sat Nam

Arjinder Kaur (Pamela)

From: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of rasheedaas
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:15 AM
To: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kundalini Yoga] Re: advice

hello,
You don't say if you are practicing kundalini yoga, but if you aren't, I
suggest you either find a class in your area, or buy a dvd.

I found kundalini yoga very helpful in dealing with depression. It may
motivate you and make you feel more energetic and find your purpose in life.
It does this for me.

good luck to you. I know what it is like to be struggling as you are. you
are not alone.

regards,
Kartar Kaur

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wrote:
>
> I am 57 and feel life has just passed my by. I am struggling financially.
physically, and emotionally. I try not to be depressed but it seems so hard.
I just need some advice, Thanks.
>

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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Re: [Kundalini Yoga] I got hurt by a non-Kundalini yoga teacher

I am training to be a (non-specific) yoga teacher at present and I'm very sorry to hear of your experience, Kartar. Very often adjustments are a very grey area and while she did ask about adjusting you before doing so, there was really no way of knowing exactly what to expect after you consented. I myself at times have some issues with my own back so my best suggestion to you might be to seek medical attention, perhaps a very gentle and experienced chiropractor or your regular doctor/health consultant for advice. If you are in that much pain it might be best to have it looked at so that you can determine what is going on before pursuing a course of action/treatment. Much healing energy to you and my best wishes on your recovery.

Namasté,
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From: rasheedaas <rasheedaas@yahoo.com>
To: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:33 AM
Subject: [Kundalini Yoga] I got hurt by a non-Kundalini yoga teacher

Altho Kundalini Yoga is the yoga of choice for me, and I am not looking for any other, I like to try different ones when the opportunity presents. It has always been a pleasant experience.
until..
I was in this class for the first time, in baby-pose,[I think that is the name - on the floor, chest on knees, arms out in front of you, relaxing] and the teacher went around and asked if she "could assist". I normally do not like a teacher to touch or correct me during class, but for some reason I said ok.
She leaned her weight against my back and I felt such intense pain that I screamed. Now 2 weeks later, I am still in pain. I hope I can get over this. The pain is in my lower back, and just recently has spread to my mid-back, and up to my right shoulder, and down my right leg.

Hurts all the time, not excrutiating pain, but pain that lets me know it is there. Hurts more when I move. Hurts more if I am still for a long time too.

Yesterday I called the teacher and told her, and asked that she pay for me to get some bodywork. She got very huffy, and immediately said I had signed a disclaimer. Which I had, but AFTER the class, so it cannot be retroactive. [I can't imagine why I signed it, perhaps I was in shock from the pain.] Then she immediately got off the phone. I have a suspicion that this is not the 1st complaint she has gotten, by her reaction.

Anyway, any advice for some movement that would ease the pain?

thanks,
kartar kaur

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RE: [Kundalini Yoga] I got hurt by a non-Kundalini yoga teacher

Sat Nam, Kartar Kar,

One of the MAIN reasons I do NOT adjust poses, or if I do it is just asking
a student to move their leg (or whatever ) toward my hand - no teacher
should ever push you into any pose, or force your body into an alignment -
when you (and your body) are ready, you will be there - cues for safe
alignment (so as not to damage knees, etc) can all be given verbally.

Please visit a chiropractor - and there are many styles of chiropractic too,
so ask around, get a recommendation if you have never gone, for a gentle one
or even one who uses an "actuator" instead of any physical manipulation.
Also, ice the pain. You can buy wraps at a drug store than you keep in the
freezer - I don't like cold, but found with a recent injury that it REALLY
made all the difference. Cold, then hot, then cold, I've heard.

Also, there is a Chinese tincture call "Dit da jaw" pronounced, roughly, dee
dah jowl, that you can hopefully purchase at a Chinese pharmacy or even a
Chinese grocery store if you ask them. It is like soy sauce, and you rub it
in until it dissolves then more, then once more. But do NOT wash your hands
to wet the area for 3-4 hours - it opens the pours to allow more blood flow
and healing and may retain water if you apply water. We make our own and it
always helps me, even with neck/shoulder pain.

Also, try lying on the floor on your back with your legs up on a chair,
knees bent 90 degrees (hard kitchen chair type) . this would be a good time
to be on a cold pack too. See if that helps just with relief.

And yes, aspirin or other pain reliever reduces swelling to again, reduce
pressure on the nerves and allow healing.

Back pain and I were very familiar for many years. Seek help before more
damage is done.

Sat Nam,

Arjinder

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From: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of rasheedaas
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:33 AM
To: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kundalini Yoga] I got hurt by a non-Kundalini yoga teacher

Altho Kundalini Yoga is the yoga of choice for me, and I am not looking for
any other, I like to try different ones when the opportunity presents. It
has always been a pleasant experience.
until..
I was in this class for the first time, in baby-pose,[I think that is the
name - on the floor, chest on knees, arms out in front of you, relaxing] and
the teacher went around and asked if she "could assist". I normally do not
like a teacher to touch or correct me during class, but for some reason I
said ok.
She leaned her weight against my back and I felt such intense pain that I
screamed. Now 2 weeks later, I am still in pain. I hope I can get over this.
The pain is in my lower back, and just recently has spread to my mid-back,
and up to my right shoulder, and down my right leg.

Hurts all the time, not excrutiating pain, but pain that lets me know it is
there. Hurts more when I move. Hurts more if I am still for a long time too.

Yesterday I called the teacher and told her, and asked that she pay for me
to get some bodywork. She got very huffy, and immediately said I had signed
a disclaimer. Which I had, but AFTER the class, so it cannot be retroactive.
[I can't imagine why I signed it, perhaps I was in shock from the pain.]
Then she immediately got off the phone. I have a suspicion that this is not
the 1st complaint she has gotten, by her reaction.

Anyway, any advice for some movement that would ease the pain?

thanks,
kartar kaur

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[Kundalini Yoga] depression

Sat Nam, Pisceswise,

My farther just passed over and although he was 93 and I had "thought" I was
all prepared, I guess I wasn't. Thank goodness for my Yoga. Believe me,
the past few days I have NOT wanted to practice, but because I teach I HAVE
to be there - and, as always, after the classes (some of which I also
participate in) I feel MUCH better, and, of course, I'm back to my personal
practice.

My Yoga originally eliminated physical pain, but now it is also relieving
mental and emotional pain and bringing me back into balance.

But remember, one class is not the solution - a regular practice is needed,
and continually. When I first started practicing to relieve my back pain I
did a short 10 minute routine every morning - for years - pain relief in a
few months, but still kept up for years just to be sure and because I found
I LOVED Yoga ;}

Yogi Bhajan had told us that we might start feeling what he called "Cold
Depression" during the Aquarian Age. He gave us meditations and Kriyas to
help with this - something we should practice every day for at least 40 days
- longer is better. You can, I believe, find info about this Cold
Depression and some ways to help relieve it on-line, or email me offline at
pamela@rabboar.com and I can direct you to some information.

Sat Nam

Arjinder Kaur (Pamela)

From: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of rasheedaas
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:15 AM
To: Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kundalini Yoga] Re: advice

hello,
You don't say if you are practicing kundalini yoga, but if you aren't, I
suggest you either find a class in your area, or buy a dvd.

I found kundalini yoga very helpful in dealing with depression. It may
motivate you and make you feel more energetic and find your purpose in life.
It does this for me.

good luck to you. I know what it is like to be struggling as you are. you
are not alone.

regards,
Kartar Kaur

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wrote:
>
> I am 57 and feel life has just passed my by. I am struggling financially.
physically, and emotionally. I try not to be depressed but it seems so hard.
I just need some advice, Thanks.
>

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Re: [Kundalini Yoga] Re: advice

Great advice, practice will improve you emotional and physical strengh and financial will come naturally.

Wish u all the best

Tejinder

On 1 Dec 2011, at 13:14, "rasheedaas" <rasheedaas@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hello,
> You don't say if you are practicing kundalini yoga, but if you aren't, I suggest you either find a class in your area, or buy a dvd.
>
> I found kundalini yoga very helpful in dealing with depression. It may motivate you and make you feel more energetic and find your purpose in life. It does this for me.
>
> good luck to you. I know what it is like to be struggling as you are. you are not alone.
>
> regards,
> Kartar Kaur
>
> --- In Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com, "pisceswise" <pisceswise@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am 57 and feel life has just passed my by. I am struggling financially. physically, and emotionally. I try not to be depressed but it seems so hard. I just need some advice, Thanks.
> >
>
>

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[Kundalini Yoga] I got hurt by a non-Kundalini yoga teacher

Altho Kundalini Yoga is the yoga of choice for me, and I am not looking for any other, I like to try different ones when the opportunity presents. It has always been a pleasant experience.
until..
I was in this class for the first time, in baby-pose,[I think that is the name - on the floor, chest on knees, arms out in front of you, relaxing] and the teacher went around and asked if she "could assist". I normally do not like a teacher to touch or correct me during class, but for some reason I said ok.
She leaned her weight against my back and I felt such intense pain that I screamed. Now 2 weeks later, I am still in pain. I hope I can get over this. The pain is in my lower back, and just recently has spread to my mid-back, and up to my right shoulder, and down my right leg.

Hurts all the time, not excrutiating pain, but pain that lets me know it is there. Hurts more when I move. Hurts more if I am still for a long time too.

Yesterday I called the teacher and told her, and asked that she pay for me to get some bodywork. She got very huffy, and immediately said I had signed a disclaimer. Which I had, but AFTER the class, so it cannot be retroactive. [I can't imagine why I signed it, perhaps I was in shock from the pain.] Then she immediately got off the phone. I have a suspicion that this is not the 1st complaint she has gotten, by her reaction.

Anyway, any advice for some movement that would ease the pain?

thanks,
kartar kaur

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[Kundalini Yoga] Re: advice

hello,
You don't say if you are practicing kundalini yoga, but if you aren't, I suggest you either find a class in your area, or buy a dvd.

I found kundalini yoga very helpful in dealing with depression. It may motivate you and make you feel more energetic and find your purpose in life. It does this for me.

good luck to you. I know what it is like to be struggling as you are. you are not alone.

regards,
Kartar Kaur

--- In Kundaliniyoga@yahoogroups.com, "pisceswise" <pisceswise@...> wrote:
>
> I am 57 and feel life has just passed my by. I am struggling financially. physically, and emotionally. I try not to be depressed but it seems so hard. I just need some advice, Thanks.
>